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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Calistoner on August 31, 2011, 07:19 pm
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Not sure why, but pedo's seem to think it is ok to fwap to CP if it is in anime form. maybe because it is in the grey area of legality? i dont really know, im not sure of the legal status, and to be honest I don't really care. It is disgusting all around because you KNOW the people who have that kind of porn on their comps also have real CP, and i bet you anything this is where it starts. Soon there will be like special custom listings for pedo's to buy, where they get download links to CP, if that hasnt already happened >:(
here's the listing
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/7241
wiki link for more info
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Lolicon
I understand this is a free market but shouldn't we draw the line somewhere?
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I don't know much about lolicon, but it seems that no actual children are being harmed. There may be a high degree of overlap between people who watch that and watch CP, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing. If SR is about not selling things that cause harm, then I see the line being drawn at real CP, which to my knowledge has never been allowed.
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I think child porn of any shape and form is wrong and should not be permitted. But that's just me..
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I think child porn of any shape and form is wrong and should not be permitted. But that's just me..
If you take the laws as they stand as a moral guide to what the general population thinks, if a person has cartoon, simulated or animated CP on their PC, they can still be convicted of CP posession and distribution.
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I don't see the problem, It's cartoons...illegal maybe cartoons but it's just cartoons.
90% of Silk Road sells illegal items, It doesn't cross the child porn barrier in my mind.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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guess my hate for CP does reflect on that listing a bit.
rake, you do have a point. this just bothers me because it disgusts me and i *assume* that most of the people who would buy/download that kind of stuff would already have truckloads of real CP.
anyway im done bitching :)
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guess my hate for CP does reflect on that listing a bit.
rake, you do have a point. this just bothers me because it disgusts me and i *assume* that most of the people who would buy/download that kind of stuff would already have truckloads of real CP.
anyway im done bitching :)
+1 i feel ya.
shit's intolerable
L75
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The real question: do the cartoons satisfy the pedophile's urge, so he doesn't act on them in real life, or do the cartoons make it worse so that he starts collecting CP and/or acts on his desires?
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The real question: do the cartoons satisfy the pedophile's urge, so he doesn't act on them in real life, or do the cartoons make it worse so that he starts collecting CP and/or acts on his desires?
^ QFT
Shame the previous thread was deleted. Some good points were made.
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What is the average age of teens who start having sex nowadays? Just look around.
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What is the average age of teens who start having sex nowadays? Just look around.
zero bearing on CP (?)
L75
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What is the average age of teens who start having sex nowadays? Just look around.
14-16
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Pedo's are people 2. Sexuality is an strange thing, but everyone has his own problems. I dont agree with CP, but I dont agree either with morals and judging people. If someone has an unstoppable urge to see CP, and deny that, it fucks his mind. It is not his fault, he has to accept that, just like homosexuality.
Peace and love
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The production of CP requires breaching consent though.
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My great great grandfather married my great great grandmother when she was 13, and she gave birth to my great grandfather at age 14.
It's just the way it was for rural folk in those "Little House on the Prairie" (and before) days.
The earlier you got married and had kids, the more farm hands were available to feed, clothe and house family members, and help out in the community. This was completely normal and not frowned upon. In fact, if you were not married by the age of 15-17, people thought there was something wrong with you.
It's all about what society feels is right for the times.
I know this has nothing to do with CP, but its directly related to how morals and values change. In this day and age it would be considered illegal and immoral.
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I'm with the CP haters 100%... CP is sick and anyone who watches it is sick.. whatever the form.. the only reason they're doing anime is because they know they'll get f*cked for watching real stuff (or they can't find it).. sick sick sick motherf*ckers.. kids should be kids not some tool for some sexual deviant pscyho..
Just my opinion.. if I had one around me I'd f*ck 'em up.. everyday...
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My great great grandfather married my great great grandmother when she was 13, and she gave birth to my great grandfather at age 14.
It's just the way it was for rural folk in those "Little House on the Prairie" (and before) days.
The earlier you got married and had kids, the more farm hands were available to feed, clothe and house family members, and help out in the community. This was completely normal and not frowned upon. In fact, if you were not married by the age of 15-17, people thought there was something wrong with you.
It's all about what society feels is right for the times.
I know this has nothing to do with CP, but its directly related to how morals and values change. In this day and age it would be considered illegal and immoral.
^ No it wouldn't.
Well, you might have trouble with the marriage side of things at that age but that an issue with the church and they're achaic, and rightly so.
Now a 15-17 year old with a 50-70 year old, that's a different kettle of fish.
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Its a serious problem of the brain. The synapses are connected between the parts of the brain for sex and child rearing(no pun intended) in pedophiles which is a brain defect that doesnt happen to 99 % of the population . Those parts of the brain are very close in all people but never connect . When they do they cause this problem. New scientific data proves this to be true and irreversible. These people will always offend because its a brain malfunction. This is why we must kill or cut their junk hands and feet off or contain them . This is the only crime that should be treated in this manor as it hurts the innocent
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Its a serious problem of the brain. The synapses are connected between the parts of the brain for sex and child rearing(no pun intended) in pedophiles which is a brain defect that doesnt happen to 99 % of the population . Those parts of the brain are very close in all people but never connect . When they do they cause this problem. New scientific data proves this to be true and irreversible. These people will always offend because its a brain malfunction. This is why we must kill or cut their junk hands and feet off or contain them . This is the only crime that should be treated in this manor as it hurts the innocent
[citation needed]
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I would much rather pedophiles be sitting in their basement jerking off to Lolicon than hiding behind the playground waiting for the recess bell. Also, Silkroad sells guns. Guns bought for the purpose of extinguishing a life. Get your priorities straight man, there's worse on here than the hentai equivalent of midget porn.
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Guns bought for the purpose of extinguishing a life
Bit of a logical leap there man.
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Guns bought for the purpose of extinguishing a life
Bit of an illogical leap there man.
there I fixed it for you.
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Guns bought for the purpose of extinguishing a life
Bit of a logical leap there man.
Not really. It's not like you can buy an M1 Garand or hunting rifle on SR. I doubt whoever purchases the Helwan 9mm intends to keep it in his bedside table to protect his family.
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just the other day i went shooting with my buddies, had all sorts of fun guns, i even got to shoot an m16 and a 7mm sniper rifle, and a big variety of shotguns and pistols.
guns are not solely bought for murder. that is just plain ignorance. anyone who believes that needs to rethink some things.
guns are not solely bought for protection, although it is a big reason people buy them.
i was raised in a gun toting family, with most of the males being ex military, guns were just part of life.
people like to shoot guns. FOR FUN. big surprise there right?
if i bought a pistol on SR, i would probably just go to the shooting range.
quote of the day "guns dont kill people, people kill people"
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@Californeeya - It seems like the gun prices on SR are really expensive. I imagine California has very strict gun laws (assuming your state from your name), but aren't you right next to Oregon, where you can just go to a gun show and get it just as anonymously, but cheaper and without having to worry about illegal packages? The debate about whether weapons should be on here aside, they seem so expensive that even if I needed a gun, I would just find the state nearest me with the fewest restrictions and go buy anonymous through some loophole. I only reference the US because every time I've looked, all the gun sellers have been US based and mostly shipped exclusively to the US (with a few vending to Canada too).
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@Californeeya - It seems like the gun prices on SR are really expensive. I imagine California has very strict gun laws (assuming your state from your name), but aren't you right next to Oregon, where you can just go to a gun show and get it just as anonymously, but cheaper and without having to worry about illegal packages? The debate about whether weapons should be on here aside, they seem so expensive that even if I needed a gun, I would just find the state nearest me with the fewest restrictions and go buy anonymous through some loophole. I only reference the US because every time I've looked, all the gun sellers have been US based and mostly shipped exclusively to the US (with a few vending to Canada too).
well i wouldnt buy a gun off silk road, that is crazy, getting a gun in the mail that isnt registered to you?? fuck that.
and the gun laws here arent as strict as you think, and it is relatively easy to obtain a concealed weapons permit.
it is also a well know fact here, go to oregon if you plan on spending over 1000$ on a gun. if you dont mind paying 400-600 for a pistol in CA, but that is OK with me..there is no need to buy a gun anonymously unless your intentions were everything but legit.
the only excuse's i could see for "needing" to buy anonymously would be for murder, or you're on paroll and cannot own a weapon. otherwise it just doesnt make sense
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@Californeeya - It seems like the gun prices on SR are really expensive. I imagine California has very strict gun laws (assuming your state from your name), but aren't you right next to Oregon, where you can just go to a gun show and get it just as anonymously, but cheaper and without having to worry about illegal packages? The debate about whether weapons should be on here aside, they seem so expensive that even if I needed a gun, I would just find the state nearest me with the fewest restrictions and go buy anonymous through some loophole. I only reference the US because every time I've looked, all the gun sellers have been US based and mostly shipped exclusively to the US (with a few vending to Canada too).
well i wouldnt buy a gun off silk road, that is crazy, getting a gun in the mail that isnt registered to you?? fuck that.
and the gun laws here arent as strict as you think, and it is relatively easy to obtain a concealed weapons permit.
it is also a well know fact here, go to oregon if you plan on spending over 1000$ on a gun. if you dont mind paying 400-600 for a pistol in CA, but that is OK with me..there is no need to buy a gun anonymously unless your intentions were everything but legit.
the only excuse's i could see for "needing" to buy anonymously would be for murder, or you're on paroll and cannot own a weapon. otherwise it just doesnt make sense
or they simply do not want Big Brother knowing who is guaranteeing their own constitutional right to keep and bear arms and form militia.
they may not wish to assist Big Brothers databasing efforts, lest there be that knock at the door to confiscate when they decide to attempt to take those rights away.
they may fear their own government, tyranny, oppression, totalitarianism ....
I think Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said it best...
"... and how we burned in the camps latter, thinking: What would things have been like if . during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those blue caps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur---what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more. We had no awareness of the real situation. We spent ourselves in one unrestrained outburst in 1917, and then we hurried to submit. We submitted with pleasure! .We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward ..."
personally, I think, instead of the people fearing them, our employees [the government] needs to start fearing the people again, never knowing where we will strike if they decide to go to far. Not knowing who is armed and who isnt armed, not knowing which door they kick in might retaliate with a hail of gunfire coming through the door.
I can not speak for anyone but myself, but I certainly would give great pause if ordered to perform questionable acts against my fellow citizens while under their employment ... and most of all I might start questioning the orders themselves becasue of it.
thats your ultimate check and balance system.
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@Californeeya - It seems like the gun prices on SR are really expensive. I imagine California has very strict gun laws (assuming your state from your name), but aren't you right next to Oregon, where you can just go to a gun show and get it just as anonymously, but cheaper and without having to worry about illegal packages? The debate about whether weapons should be on here aside, they seem so expensive that even if I needed a gun, I would just find the state nearest me with the fewest restrictions and go buy anonymous through some loophole. I only reference the US because every time I've looked, all the gun sellers have been US based and mostly shipped exclusively to the US (with a few vending to Canada too).
well i wouldnt buy a gun off silk road, that is crazy, getting a gun in the mail that isnt registered to you?? fuck that.
and the gun laws here arent as strict as you think, and it is relatively easy to obtain a concealed weapons permit.
it is also a well know fact here, go to oregon if you plan on spending over 1000$ on a gun. if you dont mind paying 400-600 for a pistol in CA, but that is OK with me..there is no need to buy a gun anonymously unless your intentions were everything but legit.
the only excuse's i could see for "needing" to buy anonymously would be for murder, or you're on paroll and cannot own a weapon. otherwise it just doesnt make sense
Oops, I misread your post. I thought you had said you bought a pistol off SR, not "if I bought". My mistake.
Most of your response I agree with completely, however I can see people buying guns anonymously just for the hell of it.
I don't have any interest in owning guns, but I was also raised in a gun toting family and am very comfortable around them. None of my family members are murderers, but they all buy their guns unregistered and without background checks through person to person trading or gun shows. If I'm not mistaken, there are quite a few states where you can get guns without background checks. I've only been to Cali when I was much younger and I've never been to Oregon, but the info was interesting... always nice to learn more about the laws of the land. :)
But back to my point: Why do they, law abiding citizens (as opposed to my criminal self ;)), do their best to keep their guns off the grid? Politics, man... for some people, its just the principle and paranoia. So I can totally see why someone might not want their gun registered or information jotted down, without any nefarious motive either. But the person who goes to SR to buy a gun still confuses me because I feel like you can accomplish the anonymous gun purchase in most of America very easily and somewhat legally (interstate transport would obviously be illegal).
Ahh, that was a rambling post, but yea... you probably know what I'm getting at.